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Great article creation in Waiting for Spring (manga)! Keep it up! Regards, SshibumXZ (talk · contribs). 21:18, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I realize that information on Wikipedia pages should be cited, but doesn't that seem to suggest that every sentence has a citation? I'm just curious. Is that really what's supposed to happen? I see hundreds of articles without citations except for once in a while. Even legit encyclopedias don't have citations for every sentence. How can an editor know what to cite or not to cite if the information they list is part of their general knowledge base versus something they add based on research or info gleaned from another source? Ouranista 04:16, 9 November 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ouranista (talk • contribs)

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I'm so sorry, but I found those article to prove that Hasbro is acquiring all of the entertainment assets by Saban Brands. If you read those articles from those to prove that Digimon was part of the entertainment assets including Power Rangers, Treehouse Detectives, Julius Jr., Popples, and others, including Glitter Force. Do you believe me now? Sources: https://investor.hasbro.com/news-releases/news-release-details/hasbro-closes-acquisition-saban-properties-power-rangers-and https://newsroom.hasbro.com/news-releases/news-release-details/hasbro-acquire-saban-brands-power-rangers-and-other PascalMuganyizi (talk) 02:03, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@PascalMuganyizi: I would still wait before adding this information. The press release does say it acquired Saban's assets but it does not explicitly mention Digimon. For all we know, it is possible another company may have picked it up. Please do not add the information until there is a stronger confirmation. lullabying (talk) 02:40, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure? PascalMuganyizi (talk) 12:02, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@PascalMuganyizi: I am sure. The press release says nothing about Digimon and therefore this information should not be added. A more explicit confirmation is needed so that there is no more edit warring. lullabying (talk) 17:30, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

But it said "other entertainment assets," in the papers. PascalMuganyizi (talk) 19:43, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@PascalMuganyizi: Digimon wasn't specifically mentioned. The press release does not say which Digimon series was attained by Hasbro. It should not be added until we have more information. There are also currently rumors that Toei Animation are now the sole distributors for Digimon and if you have a clearer source, it would significantly stop the editing wars on the articles. lullabying (talk) 20:24, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Third Opinion. This is not a subject area I know anything about, but I've read the Hasbro corporate press release linked above, specifically this as part of the transaction, Hasbro acquired Saban Properties’ interests in several additional entertainment assets, including My Pet Monster, Popples, Julius Jr., Luna Petunia, Treehouse Detectives and others and find it unclear whether Hasbro is purchasing all of Saban's properties in this deal or not. But this will become clear in time, and I think this is a there is no deadline situation. Geogene (talk) 01:04, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Although everything Pascal says does not prove anything, Hasbro Studios LLC has been claiming copyrights for several Digimon videos on YouTube.

• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRWAEXNzlyw
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eOJsm9ubGk
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlpOK40QJAU
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlOg3IkhAoU

Screenshots: https://twitter.com/supalinocelosu/status/1046251521304928256 https://twitter.com/JackoAnimeFan19/status/1046135977134215169 Angel135 (talk) 19:37, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Angel135: I don't doubt these claims, but these aren't valid sources. We should wait until an official confirmation comes out to avoid edit warring on the articles (see WP:NODEADLINE). As far as I know, even if Hasbro Studios has the distribution license, we do not know for sure which parts of the franchise it has rights to. lullabying (talk) 20:20, 13 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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It's been some time since I watched the movie, but I tried trimming the article Persona 3 The Movie: No. 1, Spring of Birth per your tag. By the way, good work making Matt Ishida. Cheers and happy new year.Tintor2 (talk) 22:53, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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You have changed and reverted my edits to the page for the group Lead.

The members refer to each other and to their fans using their first names during tours, various short movies they've released and their "home movies" posted to their official YouTube. Hiroki leaving the group was a large step and change for the group and his departure is relevant to the band's history. Given that he had been planning to leave the group for over a year, it's information that people reading the article should be made aware of when reviewing the group. The departure of a founding member is something that cannot be glossed over for the article to have thorough and informative material.

Member color, as I have explained before, corresponds to "member edition" singles they have release throughout the years ("Hurricane", "Tokyo Fever", "Speed Star", etc.). Either backgrounds or colors of the titles refer to the member's given "image color." This information is relevant and should not be removed. Xenobia4 (talk) 05:51, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Xenobia4: Wikpedia is not a fan site (see WP:NOTFANSITE). The Wikipedia refers to the names people use professionally. Unless you provide a source that they use their first names only as stage names, then it's improper to refer to them by their first names. Just because someone calls another by their first names (even in Japanese context), it does not mean it's used in a professional context unless there's a reliable source that states they use them as stage names (i.e. having music credits with just their first name, as an example). Please read WP:MOSBIO.

I agree Nakadoi leaving is important but it does not need an entire section for something that can be summarized in one paragraph. It should be integrated into the "History" section otherwise it comes off as WP:UNDUE. Giving it its own section puts too much focus on it, and it does not reflect the overall weight of the article.

I reformatted the members list to improve readability, which should be kept. Regarding their member colors, you need to link to a reliable source. Without a reliable source provided (just saying "They released it on their singles" isn't enough -- you need to have a reliable source that mentions these things) then it's considered WP:FAN and WP:ORIGINAL, which isn't allowed by this Wikipedia.

For that reason, the article reads like a fan site to me. I must reiterate that Wikipedia is not a fan site, because I don't feel you seem to get what constitutes as original research and why it isn't allowed. I noticed you removed the tag without discussion -- please don't do that without discussing with other editors first. lullabying (talk) 10:10, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi! Concerning this: [1]. As far as I know, there is now a book containing mini reviewa for all of their singles. I think that was done at least for Momusu, Berryz and Cute. --Moscow Connection (talk) 10:17, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you can find the review itself, you can use it to expand the article. Otherwise, it's not considered notable. If the book is self-published, it's not a reliable source. lullabying (talk) 16:41, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know where to find the books. I saw an ad for one of them on CDJournal three years ago or so.
Actually, CDJournal now has minireviews for all of Cute's major label singles on their site: [2]. --Moscow Connection (talk) 12:46, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

By the way! Koharu's singles also have minireviews now: [3]. You can use them. (There isn't much, but enough to prove notability.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 12:53, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sadly, no review for "Hana o Pūn", only a summary: [4]. --Moscow Connection (talk) 12:53, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi! Could you please not remove links to Cute and Berryz Kobo from the "Japanese idol" article? They are those "Morning Musume's sister groups" that the sentence talks about, so why not mention them?

And I would also like to note that the list you completely removed wasn't a much bigger OR than the list of the most-selling idols. (Yes, I see there is a good source, but it's from 2011 and some of the numbers were updated from other sources and seem to differ too drastically. I also would like to alert you of a possibility of the list growing into something like the "list of best-selling music artists", which is utterly original.) I'm not saying it has to be removed, though. But just think, what's more useful for the reader, the list you removed or the list of celebrities from times long bygone? (I would have both.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 01:19, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've also posted here:

• Talk:Japanese idol#Recent rework.

You don't have to reply there, though. I put some effort into the article some years ago and since then it waited for attention from a native English speaker with good literary skills and (finally!) you are the person. And you have good research skills, too. I greatly appreciate your contribution. I'm not planning to interfere and will just wait for future developments. Presently I'm just asking you to mention Cute, Berryz Kobo and S/mileage a.k.a. Angerme and to think about adding the active idols list back in some form. Maybe you can find a good source for a short selective list by agency/project.
(But still, could you please be more respectful to other people's views/opinions? I've also found a message by Ouranista who told you practically the same thing.) --Moscow Connection (talk) 02:16, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Legacypac (talk) 20:52, 11 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Don't do this [5], [6]. First of all, "Babymetal" is a carefully referenced article, and you mixed up all the references. Secondly, you yourself said in you edit summaries that the sources you were removing were simply translations from Japanese sources. Wouldn't it be more logical for you to find the originals and replace the translations with them? Thirdly, Wikipedia is a work in progress. Your removal of sources impeded the future development of the article and thus was unhelpful. --Moscow Connection (talk) 09:18, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• @Moscow Connection: Arama! Japan is a gossip blog and isn't considered WP:RELIABLE for news (they are fine for interviews, however). It was originally a spin-off of Oh No They Didn't. Some of their articles are still written in a memetic joking manner and the nature of the website (in which they have accepted articles written by their readers) still hardly makes them a valid source. Sometimes they don't reference the sources they translated from. Removing unreliable sources is not impeding future development -- I had planned on replacing with the original sources but at a later time. Please assume WP:GOODFAITH, as I have repeatedly warned you. lullabying (talk) 09:31, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • (edit conflict) As far as I know, Arama! Japan contributors simply translate Japanese news. So it's unlikely that there are factual errors. And it's 1000 times easier to find a reliable Japanese source if you already have a translation than if you have nothing at all.
    It was impeding future development cause now someone who cares can easily find a replacement source. But if there are no sources, the next step will be to remove the information as unsourced. And, in the case of Babymetal, to simply delete half the article cause after what you did it appears to have fake sources and looks like written by someone who can't be trusted.
    If you don't really care enough / don't have enough time to go and find the originals, you should just mark the sources as unreliable (there is a special template for this) and wait until someone replaces them. --Moscow Connection (talk) 09:58, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • How am I not assuming good faith? I obviously do. Did I warn you for vandalism or something? No, I came and explained why I thought what you did was wrong and bad for the articles. --Moscow Connection (talk) 10:03, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • "I had planned on replacing with the original sources but at a later time."
    Then could you please do this for the Babymetal article? In the next couple of days? Cause I'm looking at it now and it seems to me that your edit cannot be easily reverted. I'm afraid I would have to spend half an hour putting back everything you removed. But the article can't be left as it is cause the sources are all mixed up now. --Moscow Connection (talk) 10:15, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Arama! Japan used to be a LiveJournal community before they made their own site, and if you believe there are any "errors", just read their Maki Goto articles and see that their tone may cause the source to fall into WP:RELIABLE territory. You already reverted my edits on other articles to an earlier revision. For the Babymetal article, from my memory, I only remembered about 1-3 sources. I might be wrong about this though, and recovering the sources from those edits won't take too long. lullabying (talk) 21:35, 16 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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you keep on deleting my post (==Animation change== Following the release of the first episode many fans expressed upset in the change in animation style and overall tone from the pilot. The lack of communication between the Patreon funded team and changes made left many of those who funded the project upset. When questioned about this, creator Allegri responded on Tumbrl that "Bee’s design changed… cuz… I wanted it to. I wasn’t happy with how the animation studio interpreted the original design, so i counteracted the choices i made and hoped it would animate better… but also I redesigned it cuz i wasn’t happy with how I designed it either!!”^[1]) what's the matter with you? nothing wrong with this and its properly sourced. enough people questioned it that the author went out of her way to address it. you don't own that article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.119.202.164 (talk) 21:17, 28 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:VNOTSUFF and WP:UNDUE. If it's added, it does not need its own section. lullabying (talk) 02:35, 29 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I saw you've been recently the main editor for the Aoi Shouta Wikipedia page. I hadn't opened it in a while, but recently I did and noticed his name is now listed as "Yanagawa Noboru". Although that has a source from 2004, him using the name in that festival in 2004 doesn't really make it any more official than the name he uses now and might as well have been just another alias. It's known that Aoi Shouta is just a stage name, but neither his agency or he ever came forward saying that Yanagawa Noboru is his actual name, so listing it as his birth name when not even the Japanese Wikipedia does so seems wrong. However, as you seem to have been the main overseer of that page, I wanted to talk to you about it and know your reason to listing it as his real name before I try to make any changes (like transferring the name from the top of the page to a section saying "His true name is believed to be Yanagawa Noboru[yamaha festival source], although no official statement from him, his agency, or any of his associates ever confirmed it.", since that seems more accurate). Lefaery (talk) 01:00, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Lefaery: The name Noboru Yanagawa was used during a period before Shouta Aoi was famous; people don't use stage names if they're not celebrities. There's also the fact that he has performed as "Noboru" and posted videos on Niconico under the name "Noboru." Your claim is still valid though, but Japanese Wikipedia is not a good reason to back it up especially since Japanese media exhibits a lot of self-censorship and usually does its best to protect people's personal lives. If you do want to remove it, we will have to remove "birth name" altogether. Also, we can't word this as "His true name is believed to be etc..." as Wikipedia is not a place for speculation. lullabying (talk) 01:33, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Although it isn't common that people who aren't celebrities to use stage names, there are actually various cases of people using aliases/stage names/etc from the start of their career. So this could very well be the case, seeing as there is still no concrete proof of it being his birth name. I saw the 'believed to' as something like 'his fans speculate that', not as the Wikipedia in itself speculating it, but I see how it could be seen as this either way. I still think it could be removed as his birth name and just listed as a name he used previously, because it's, in the end, all that it is confirmed as, unless a reliable source (like a family member, an interview by him, his agency, or even something like a birth certificate) comes forward confirming it. Also as you were the one to remove it in the first place, I want to give it a heads up that I'll be putting back the title 'songwriter' on his page, as he's been listed as the songwriter in at least one song for every album or mini album he has released in recent times, like 'Powder Snow' (album Zero), 'I Am' (cd Eclipse) and '奪えないもの' on his latest cd (Tone) released this month. Just so it isn't deleted again. EDIT: I also want to add that in one of his radio shows, he said that his real name was actually Shouta, with just a different kanji, although Aoi was not his surname. I'd be happy to cite that episode/a recording of it as a source on his page too. Lefaery (talk) 21:37, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• @Lefaery: You can add back the songwriter part. If you want to add the citation for his name, that's fine too, but I suggest we hold off on the birth name part because we don't have the characters for his first name, nor do we know his last name. We can list "Noboru Yanagawa" in prose during the early life section as it wasn't a name he used professionally. lullabying (talk) 22:27, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think listing it in prose on the early life section seems fine. Since you've been the one making the big changes on his page and knows more about the Wikipedia formatting, I'll leave it to you to add that (when you have the time), if that's ok. Also on some of my searches, he also confirmed on a radio that he participated in a high school nationals tennis tournament during his school years, in 2003. Following with the fact that he said previously that his name was actually Shouta, I found a record of all the participants of the tournament on that year and, although again it is not confirmed, the closest I could find to his real name was Yanagawa Shouta (柳川　翔太), and it seems that is also the agreement Japanese fans have come to. (source for the tournament participants list). Although I don't think that is enough confirmation or valid source to use on Wikipedia, I figured it'd be good if you knew this information too. Lefaery (talk) 23:13, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• @Lefaery: Thanks for sharing. Since it's still speculation, I still don't think we should mention his birth name unless the facts are solid. lullabying (talk) 23:20, 22 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As mentioned on the "List of Miracle Tunes Episodes" edit, the summaries should each meet the 200-word count and are no different compared to the episode summaries on shows like Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. which is rated as a good article.2603:9000:7D0A:8C00:AD8D:167A:A080:FEE4 (talk) 01:14, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• By extending the episode summaries you risk having WP:FLOWERY and Wikipedia:Too much detail. The episode plots of each episode are really simple and aren't as convoluted as the examples you mentioned, especially since each episode is half the runtime of those series. Realistically episode summaries should be short because of Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction#Accuracy and appropriate weight. Also, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is a good article not because of the episode summaries; it included extended information about reception and broadcasting. lullabying (talk) 15:47, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • And yet lists like My Little Pony, which has the same amount of minutes as Miracle Tunes, use what I consider the right amount of information: accurate and to-the-point.2603:9000:7D0A:8C00:6903:C485:DEEF:3135 (talk) 23:56, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • Right, but I reverted your edits mostly because you keep adding unnecessary detail and expressing events in a flowery manner. I have no problem if you want to change up things, but your edits have been making the summaries longer than they need to be. lullabying (talk) 00:14, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • Define "unnecessary detail" and "expressing events in a flowery manner," because I took your comments in account and reduce my summaries for a more professional appearance.2603:9000:7D0A:8C00:6903:C485:DEEF:3135 (talk) 01:32, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • Specifically speaking, In this edit, line 308 is an example where you mentioned, "After Yuzuhara has Kojiro help her get the camera crew out of Montana... Kanon's mother, having witnessed the fight once finishing a new set of cakes for the girls, keeps it to herself while asking Kanon to come to her if she ever has troubles." I found the part where you mentioned "Yuzuhara has Kojiro help her get the camera crew out" a little unnecessary because it's not important to the overall plot. The main point of episode summaries is to give a brief summary of events -- if people want to know every single thing that happens, then it's on them to watch it themselves. lullabying (talk) 16:46, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
        • Plot-wise, Yuzuhara enlisting Kojiro's help was namely to move the story since the girls cannot transform in public. That might have been actually flowery if I added the "UFO" excuse and the comedy that went with it. I reword the draft of said episode with the word count at 101 for your review.
          • Episode 25: Miracle² film a Grab the Miracle segment at the Montana sweets cafe where Kanon's mother works at. But Nechigae turns the shop assistants into the Negative Jewelers Mushiba and Sashiba, who sabotage the cakes the girls were to eat. After Yuzuhara enlisted Kojiro to distract the camera crew, the Miracle Tunes assume Hip-Hop Mode to purify the Negative Jewelers during a rap battle, recovering the Opera Jewel. The girls are unware that Mrs. Ichinose witnessed their fight once she finished a new cakes for them, keeping their secret while asking Kanon to come to her if she ever has troubles. 2603:9000:7D0A:8C00:DC81:E051:7769:1944 (talk) 19:35, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
            • Sorry to get back to you late, but I personally don't think you should mention "After Yuzuhara enlisted Kojiro to distract the camera crew" because the information is excessive and minor. The article is already long as is and it's supposed to give a quick view of each episode, not listing what happens in detail. lullabying (talk) 20:30, 29 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi,

The references "8days.sg" is a magazine published by Mediacorp.

Also this article is in English but all the references are in Japanese which most readers don't understand at all. That's why I added the ref in English. Just like many Korean articles with many references in Korean. I always wonder why. If I can understand Japanese or Korean, I would just read the Japanese or Korean Wikipedia articles. No need to read the English Wikipedia article.

Anyway, it's up to you if you want to delete the reference. Jjaey (talk) 05:07, 28 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• @Jjaey: Thanks for letting me know. Also, sources don't have to be in English to create an article. lullabying (talk) 16:56, 29 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello. I'm curious as to why you shortened a sentence that is properly referenced and has been on the wiki for over six years without any objection from you until now? The data is factual and I see no implication that the animation studio developed the series because of fan activity. The original citation of ("Fake anime series inspires real fans on Tumblr". The Daily Dot. Retrieved March 12, 2013.) simply states that fan response was high and petitions were sent to create a series. This is absolutely true. Kyoto Animation acted independently, not because of the fans and the sentence doesn't say the studio acted in response to fan requests. If a clarifying sentence is warranted, add it, but if a documented fact is on the page, I believe it should remain on the page. I don't want to argue and I'm not even the person who originally wrote the sentence in 2013, but this doesn't make sense to me. Wikipedia is about honoring facts, not deleting them. Can you explain your action further so I understand where you're coming from? Ouranista (talk) 00:11, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Getting fan work is nothing really notable and The Daily Dot isn't a good source (it's not listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and manga/Online reliable sources). None of the petitions are really notable except for Crunchyroll's. Better sources to be cited are these articles from Kotaku here and here (one of them does cite the original Daily Dot article but Kotaku is a bigger outlet for these sorts of things and also directly links to Crunchyroll's petition). But if you want to read the sentence with clarification and updated sources, then feel free to. It's better to give less weight to the fan response or to redo the sentence.

The reason why it's undisputed for so long is partially because the majority of the people working on the anime-related articles on this Wiki don't understand Japanese and are thus disconnected from the Japanese sources (which a lot of interviews and guidebooks are released in).

The issue with the sources, however, is that they are ambiguously worded so that people have the misconception that the anime was made solely because of fan response when it had been planned before that. You still have big outlets like Anime News Network perpetuating this misconception from time-to-time (their original article stated so before people sent them corrections). The Free! Guidebook (a fan translation here) states that the show had been planned since 2011. Unfortunately I do not own this book so I cannot give a correct citation to this. lullabying (talk) 16:04, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I see what you're saying and after reading the provided translation, I'm inclined to leave things as they are right now. I don't believe the anime was actually in the works as of 2011 (ok, maybe it was a seed), but it certainly wasn't previewed in the spring of 2013 and aired that summer. Anime just doesn't work that way. Thanks for responding. Ouranista (talk) 19:51, 19 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Can I create page of Digimon Adventure: Last Evolution Kizuna or not yet? They revealed that 8 DigiDestind's Japanese Voices from Adventure tri. rerise their roles along with 8 original Voices of their Digimon Partners and new 4 Voices for 02 DigiDestinds also Veemon & others will have same voices just like 8 Digimon.

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• There isn't enough information for a completely separate article yet. Just wait on this -- there's no deadline. lullabying (talk) 23:45, 28 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello! May I ask why did you undo my edit in "Iris (Japanese band)" page?!

On my talk page with JalenFolf, they said: As far as I'm aware, the birthdates are already on each of the individual members' Wiki pages, so there's no point including them again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CuteDolphin712 (talk • contribs) 03:39, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@CuteDolphin712: I had a conversation on Drmies' talk page and they said that it was BLP trivia that doesn't belong on the page, and I agree. If you look on a lot of girl group pages that regularly get edited like Angerme, Girls' Generation, Loona (group), and Spice Girls, a lot do not list birthdates. lullabying (talk) 15:48, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

From what I already said, if you say "member information best to go to their individual pages", you can do so. But the information would be too short and as of now, there could be little to no sources regarding them, so there's no point in creating article for them. Birthdays are according to their profile website. CuteDolphin712 (talk) 06:02, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• CuteDolphin712, I don't think you should be going around telling people how Wikipedia works if you have under 300 edits here. This whole business about birthdays is silly: first of all, it only matters because K-pop and J-pop etc. appear to be essentially ageist and sexist. Thus, there is a commercial interest in all these members being a certain age. Second, that means we cannot trust sources like "profile website" since they are controlled by management: they are not independent, not reliable. As for "the information would be too short", I don't know what you mean with that, but I do know that Saki Yamakita is not notable by our standards, and warrants only a redirect, if that, to Iris (Japanese band). And please tell me you will make an effort to understand why (unverified) statements like "Saki Yamakita's favorite anime is Pokémon. Her dream is to be a person who can make people smile and give them hope" should never, EVER, be in Wikipedia. Drmies (talk) 14:15, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • How to make them notable per GNG or NARTIST? I wish you could. I was not wrong. But why they appear to be essentially ageist and sexist?CuteDolphin712 (talk) 15:08, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • @CuteDolphin712: You need to find reliable secondary sources that report news on the actresses (outside of their activities with Iris). Anime News Network (news articles only) is a good place to start. Oricon and Natalie are also really good sources if you know Japanese. And I think what Drmies is saying is that their age seems to matter because of the Japanese idol and Korean idol industry where youth is valued, so it makes it seem like ages are important when they actually aren't. lullabying (talk) 15:50, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • And that they have reason to be untruthful about it. Drmies (talk) 17:51, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
      • Right. Agencies lie about their talents' birthdates all the time anyway. lullabying (talk) 17:52, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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About Digimon being owned by Hasbro, I just saw the webpage, could it be true that Digimon Is owned by Hasbro? PascalMuganyizi (talk) 16:52, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• @PascalMuganyizi: You might want to tell me what "webpage" you're talking about, because I have no context! lullabying (talk) 22:39, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm talking about this webpage! https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/12/03/hasbro-plans-a-chain-of-family-entertainment-cente.aspx PascalMuganyizi (talk) 01:13, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your helpful feedback. I will go through to find better citations and re-evaluate each edit I had previously made. I assume articles and publications available exclusively in Japanese are still acceptable for articles in English Wikipedia?KittoNakajima (talk) 07:09, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Why did you undo my change? The table have been there for years someone erased it and I just restore it Is no bias, It have correct information about current groups and dates of debuts. 2020 Debuts was already announced so is correct to put them. Also It have the members information, just the same as the one in Temporary / special units — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuronekonoyoru (talk • contribs) 22:14, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• @Kuronekonoyoru: It's considered trivia. The number of members in a group, along with the year debuted, should ideally go into the individual articles, while Johnny & Associates should focus on the company as a whole. Also, the reason why it's been there for years is because the majority of J-pop articles have really been only edited by its hardcore fan base who find details like this important and are unaware Wikipedia's Manual of Style. See SM Entertainment artists as an example of better formatting. Drmies might be able to explain this better than me. lullabying (talk) 22:19, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Is not a trivia, is also on Wikipedia Japan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuronekonoyoru (talk • contribs) 22:22, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• @Kuronekonoyoru: It is trivia, because the number of members in a group, along with the debut year, in a table that considerably contains more information than it should, does not matter on an article that focuses on its company. We are the English Wikipedia and we are not under obligations to follow the same format as Japanese Wikipedia. I suggest you read WP:TRIVIA and WP:EXCESSDETAIL. lullabying (talk) 22:26, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe the problem is just you don`t understand the way this company work`s and the information who is important to the people who really reads this information. I did not said you have to follow wiki jp, but why you think the information is there? Because is easier for people to get the info they need that way Also why you don`t erase the Temporary / special units table ? So that one is not a trivia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuronekonoyoru (talk • contribs) 22:30, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• @Kuronekonoyoru: Maybe the problem is you didn't read the Manual of Styles I sent to you that explained why this information is inappropriate, such as WP:EXCESSDETAIL (and possibly WP:FAN). I haven't finished copy-editing the article but I do intend to reconstruct the "temporary units" section once I figure out how to format it. Also, please sign your posts with four tildes. lullabying (talk) 22:33, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

ok go ahead destroy something that was just perfect — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kuronekonoyoru (talk • contribs) 22:36, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Kuronekonoyoru, it was a table full of trivia and weird symbols, lacking any kind of verification, with the comment "don't erase the table" in article space. There was nothing perfect about it. Drmies (talk) 22:54, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Drmie I was talking on the one before that one, the original one. Also guidelines said that is not compulsorily to erase "trivias" About the comment well I apologize I though It was a fan messing up with the information on the site. But I think At least debut year have to be shown. Kuronekonoyoru (talk) 23:06, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• @Kuronekonoyoru: It does not, unless the group is no longer under the company. lullabying (talk) 16:24, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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1. Pretty Rhythm: Dear My Future also features not only new Characters but those from Aurora Dream like Aira Harune, Rizumu Amamiya, and Mion Takamine.

2. On which section you add reliable secondary sources? References or External Links? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CuteDolphin712 (talk • contribs) 09:15, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Aira, Rizumu, and Mion are already listed on List of Pretty Rhythm: Aurora Dream characters. There's no need to list them again. I only separate List of Pretty Rhythm: Dear My Future characters because the first article was getting too long, and plus, that section should focus mostly on Dear My Future. Sources should be added under References -- External links is just a section to other websites. lullabying (talk) 09:39, 24 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

1. What do you mean by "getting too long"? I don't really understand.

2. If you could ask administrator, is it necessary to delete "List of Pretty Rhythm characters" page? I think we don't need it anymore because each anime has their separate articles now.

3. There's no need to remove a character that only appears in one episode. I noticed your past edit in List of Pretty Rhythm: Rainbow Live characters... unless you have an obvious reason. CuteDolphin712 (talk) 09:57, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

1. The article got really long and it was just easier to give Dear My Future its own character article.
2. No, List of Pretty Rhythm characters focuses on the game, not the anime.
3. Characters that make one non-important appearance may qualify as Wikipedia:Fancruft. lullabying (talk) 10:06, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Characters that make one non-important appearance may qualify as Wikipedia:Fancruft. Uh, can you actually explain it yourself?CuteDolphin712 (talk) 12:05, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@CuteDolphin712: It means that since this character makes an appearance that is not important to the plot (such as a filler episode), it may not need to be added because it's just detail for the fans and not important to the article. lullabying (talk) 15:44, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I know that. It's an official character, not fan-made. What is a filler episode?CuteDolphin712 (talk) 18:44, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@CuteDolphin712: Official characters can qualify if they make one-time appearances that don't contribute to the plot. A filler episode is an episode that does not contribute to the overall plot of the show (This is common for shows that are adaptations based on manga where the serialization of the manga has not concluded). lullabying (talk) 20:10, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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I was scolded by User:scope_creep today because there were secondary sources but that user keeps reverting it. As you said before, I need to find reliable secondary sources that report news on the actresses (outside of their activities with Iris). Anime News Network (news articles only) is a good place to start. Oricon and Natalie are also good sources in Japanese language.

I found any sources about their activities with I Ris. Voice acting IS good example, so I WAS NOT WRONG!!CuteDolphin712 (talk) 13:25, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@CuteDolphin712: I saw scope_creep's comment and their comment was reasonable. You don't have enough sources -- you've only listed one Natalie and one Oricon source. Moreover, she seems to have less than 10 acting credits and there is no note of whether they are lead or recurring. One of them is even "Customer A", and that's an extra role, so it's not a lead role. Scope isn't necessarily telling you that you can't make the article or is scolding you. They just said to make a draft and have someone check it to make sure it's okay. You can do so and ask someone from Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and manga to help out. lullabying (talk) 15:57, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

1. I could ask someone from Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and manga but since I don't know any users there (or not familiar with them), I'm not sure if I can do it myself. Can you ask yourself instead?

2. How many sources should there be? CuteDolphin712

3. Other than being the English Wikipedia, why are dub cast in other languages than Japanese and English dub [if available] not allowed? (I looked your 2 edits on "List of Pretty Rhythm characters": Removed Korean dub cast; this is the English Wikipedia which focuses on the original and any possible English dub versions). I guess Pretty Rhythm was never dubbed in Korean.

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@CuteDolphin712: You don't have to know any users there to ask. Just post a message on their talk page, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga to ask for help. If not, you can ask on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan for help.

And re: removing the Korean cast -- imagine everyone adding the dub cast of every single language -- it's just Wikipedia:Fancruft and

WP:UNDUE. It'll get too long and it also includes information that only appeals to hardcore fans when that's what Wikia is for. The general audience of Wikipedia, who the website caters to, won't care about these details. The only cast members important now is Japanese (because it's the original version) and English (because it's the dub that most people reading this page will be familiar with). lullabying (talk) 15:42, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In what case that the English dub cast will be removed despite having one? Maybe if the English version of that anime is fan-made or something? CuteDolphin712 (talk) 15:13, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@CuteDolphin712: In any case the English dub is an unauthorized fan-made one. Then WP:PROMO and WP:G11 would apply. ミラP 16:54, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@CuteDolphin712: If the dub is fan-made regardless of the language, then it shouldn't be listed on Wikipedia. Any official English dub information should be listed on Wikipedia where it is available. lullabying (talk) 09:26, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

For example: if a TV show is from the United Kingdom, and it has been dubbed into American English, should the American cast be included in Characters' voice actors list? I'm going to remove all the American version cast on Tweenies page (this section), if necessary. CuteDolphin712 (talk) 05:29, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

CuteDolphin712 FWIW scope_creep has been indeffed for WP:NPA. ミラP 15:45, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

See again in my review that I add below in the section. 148.101.34.72 (talk) 17:25, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I looked at your source and often times artist profiles are just press adverts. It says she's an actress but it did not mention any notable live-action acting credits under her name. MOS:CONTEXTBIO states: The lead sentence should describe the person as they are commonly described in reliable sources. The noteworthy position(s) or role(s) the person held should usually be stated in the opening paragraph. Rumi Shishido's official website also lists that she's a camera(wo)man and an illustrator but because she has not released any notable works under that role, we do not list her as such. lullabying (talk) 17:31, 1 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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• @Jeanjung212: Thanks for the heads up. I'll put this into my bookmarks to use as reference for next time. lullabying (talk) 23:04, 11 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for turning Idol × Warrior Miracle Tunes! into a Good Article! Now if you could consider doing the same for Magical × Heroine Magimajo Pures!, that would be nice... ミラP 20:53, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

1. So, this is about the last Thread we talked before... It really will/would not get too long just to put them. The same case happened in List of Aikatsu! characters, where someone already removed the dub actors in other languages without full detail (other than just because they are not necessary). I already wrote a notice on their talk page.

2. I noticed your comment on Kirarin Revolution page:

They were only active for 3 months, but I get your point on when their disbandment took place as being unclear. Notability as a band is not being disputed -- the article overlaps with Kirarin Revolution and the group itself isn't independent outside of the show. You can also say the same thing with Ships (band). Their singles charted but there is barely any information about them aside from them being created for Kirarin Revolution. Other similar examples include Love Live! and The Idolmaster Cinderella Girls, where the voice cast do hold concerts as the characters they portray, and their singles chart as well, but their band presence alone depends on the show and they are not independent from the show as a band (and there's even more information on them than there is for Kirapika) -- context about the group depends heavily on the main series they are from, causing an overlap in articles.

Could Iris (Japanese band) be the same case? They were just created for Pripara series.CuteDolphin712 (talk) 07:27, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kira Pika was a tie-in band where the actors performed as their characters in real life, just to promote their series. Iris is not the same case -- they just performed the theme songs. Iris is more like Shugo Chara Egg! and Guardians 4. Kira Pika is more like Queen & Elizabeth or Hannah Montana. lullabying (talk) 07:49, 16 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

1. What about Prizmmy?

2. What does BLP trivia mean, and why the profiles are removed from group articles? For the definition, I looked into WP:BLP nothing.

3. Hannah Montana focuses on the TV series.

CuteDolphin712 (talk) 13:34, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Prizmmy was not based on any character -- the characters were based on them. We are discussing if the actors released music as their characters -- which they didn't.

Please read WP:MUSICBIO: The very bottom says: Note that members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases. Singers and musicians who are only notable for participating in a reality television series may be redirected to an article about the series, until they have demonstrated that they are independently notable. Saki Yamakita, the article you're trying to restore is not individually notable -- she has no leading voice acting roles and she has no solo music releases.

This article is an example of a fictional character, albeit a pretty bad one. lullabying (talk) 20:18, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Why Kasumi Suzuki redirected to Ojamajo Doremi? You even restored the page by finding good sources there.CuteDolphin712 (talk) 00:50, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• @CuteDolphin712: Check the article history. There was previously an AFD atWikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kasumi Suzuki that resulted it in redirecting it to the article and currently there is a discussion taking place at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2019 November 14 on restoring it. You are welcome to participate lullabying (talk) 01:57, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is just my opinion, but I think this information would be better presented in the "Overview" section. The section isn't very big as it can be summarized in a sentence or two. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:54, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Lullabying,

Just restructured you article you may want "subheading 1" saying stuff along the lines of early works to prominence, voice acting breakthrough, continuous career to musical breakthrough, subsequent success...

You seem like a serious editor so I presume you are reusing the same citation at another point in the article, which it fine.

Also when he reprises/return/revisits the role below. Put them in their according year. Finally in 2009, his notable roles is a tokusatsu character named Ultraman Zero, the son of Ultraseven who first made his debut in the movie Mega Monster Battle: Ultra Galaxy Legend The Movie before starring in subsequent movies Ultraman Zero: The Revenge of Belial and Ultraman Saga. Lacking a series of his own, Zero continued to appear as the main host of Ultraman Retsuden/Shin Ultraman Retsuden and in subsequent Ultra Series entries, with the recent being Ultraman Zero: The Chronicle in 2017.

Once done I will gladly revoke my vote.Filmman3000 (talk) 03:29, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Filmman3000: These are all great suggestions. Thanks for giving them. Would you mind posting it in the reassessment? I'm currently not a main contributor to the article but I imagine your advice would be helpful for those who might be interested in helping fixing it up. (On the topic of that, I also don't understand why tokusatsu is its own category... tokusatsu is a filming technique that basically means "special effects" in a live-action television series.) lullabying (talk) 03:34, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you can, can you reduce long episode summary for Pretty Cure episode list? Especially List of DokiDoki! PreCure episodes. CuteDolphin712 (talk) 19:14, 1 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@CuteDolphin712: I'm afraid I'm not suited for the job as I have not watched that show, and I think it would be ideal for someone to summarize adequately. lullabying (talk) 00:13, 3 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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I noticed your edit summary on Eimi Naruse: Restoring birthday -- not sure why this was removed

That is to be more consistent with group pages, which we do not list birthday a